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Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 13, 2023 go to post

So, actually I have no idea why this file is there, but it's something else, there should be another file like intersystems_irispython-3.2.0-py3-none-any.whl, and it should be installable

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 13, 2023 go to post

I've removed your images, with broken urls, could you update post with an error, you get

and command you use

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 5, 2023 go to post

When the google group was quite active, years ago, I did some analytics as well, and as I remember, there were quite similar numbers as well. And we had a dedicated Russian forum and had just about 10 active people there.

My suggestion is, that, Developers on InterSystems technologies are not used to using the Internet for their issues. They probably may ask colleagues by company, but not the Internet. As you would see on StackOverflow, there is a huge amount of questions and answers on any language and technology. And even so, we have jokes, that some developers write code by copy-pasting code from StackOverflow. But apparently, it's not the case with ObjectScript and IRIS. And we have just a few questions per year on StackOverflow and only a couple or so people who would answer there.

So, I think, InterSystems developers mostly prefer to solve issues on their own. And this is a main issue as well. Because they may miss some new features that appeared in the technology, some useful projects or technics.

And I'm sure that, any involved developer should be part of spreading the importance of using DC amongst his colleagues and encourage them of using it, at least to read articles. 

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 5, 2023 go to post

Yeah, that's really, so. Redis has that feature, so you can set a time to live for the value, and it will disappear after that. In IRIS The only way to have something that will be deleted automatically is, Process-Private Globals, but their time to live is tied to the process, and you would still need to clean up if your process is long living.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 5, 2023 go to post

What exactly do you want to achieve?

JDBC Drivers are not applications, so, there is nothing to execute, it is supposed to be used by another application, which can work with JDBC drivers.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 4, 2023 go to post

Yeah, actually, in several projects I've used %CSP.REST to process the whole application. Static web files and REST itself. And the main cause to do so is that the internal webserver did not accept index.html as default index. So, it required to putting it manually to the URL, or using %CSP.REST, which work with static files, and correctly processes index.html. And it requires just one Web Application configured. But in case, when an application is partly anonymous, requires more attention to security.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 4, 2023 go to post

Debugging uses WebSockets, so, make sure that your web server is configured properly for WebSockets.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Jan 4, 2023 go to post

Any reasons for doing this? This is not how it is supposed to be. REST should answer with Status 401, and optionally  with methods available. And web application when gets 401, it knows that it has to authorize the user, and shows its own page or initiates SSO, depending on the task.

Anyway, if really do this way, It looks like %CSP.REST extends %CSP.Login, and it has Method Login

Called for a REST page in the event of a login being required

Did not test it, but I would expect it will do what requested

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 22, 2022 go to post

Yeah, with docker it will be easier to offer a working environment

And we already have a lot of open-source projects, based on docker. But switching most of those projects from Community Edition to normal now will require additional configuration, on adding webserver container next to IRIS. And I think we should think already about it, and produce new projects, even on Community Edition, with WebServer as well. So, it will be easily switched for any reason.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 22, 2022 go to post

Yeah, I would not expect less, from such an experienced man. But, I'm mainly worried about beginners. 

Offical Apache, does not offer any builds for Windows, it offers using 5 third-party projects, one of them with a dead link. And even mentioned by offering 4 different builds of the same version. And not everyone can easily decide which version is needed.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 21, 2022 go to post

Seriously?

As you can find below, using IIS can be forbidden by company policy. And I totally agree with that.

Installing Apache on Windows, it's quite a trick. Fortunately, I'm not a windows user, but as far as I know, it's not so simple to find Apache on Windows, there are a few different builds of it.

And Installing nginx which will work with IRIS, even requires building it from source code, according to InterSystems Documentation

So, yes. I'm strictly staying with my position. That even installing a webserver may cause pain. And on top of that, if it will require a production-ready configuration, with restricted access, became even trickier.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 20, 2022 go to post

I mean, a lot of stuff still really depends on a web server. It's quite difficult for a beginner to do anything useful, having bare IRIS, without any web server. SMP is a dependency, Atelier API is a dependency and so on

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 20, 2022 go to post

But it should be a bit more gentle way, first of all, remove any dependencies of this, or make them at least optional. 

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 20, 2022 go to post

Atelier API is just for IDE, it's not supposed to call any custom call.

There is a way, that you could call SQL Proc, via SQL Query. But it is not what I would recommend

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 20, 2022 go to post

Yes, they already mentioned that in another post

But, how knows how long it will last, the later version may remove that support

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 20, 2022 go to post

The fact that it's still available in the Community Edition, does not mean that it will not be removed there too. And I'm sure not all developers, can use Community Edition in development, because, not all features are available in Community Edition, and it's very limited by the size of the database and connections (even after increasing). So, for most of the customers, it's rather impossible. But now, InterSystems I would say forcing to use it in development by any developer. So, I see, no reason of pushing Community Edition as an option for developers. It's a good alternative, but useful for a minor part of the developers.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 19, 2022 go to post

It will not help anyway. Developers installing instance locally, will have to take care about configuring local web server as well, even just to use VSCode.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 19, 2022 go to post

You can still migrate to versions prior 2023.1, where apache is still present. 

And I hope that will come time when SMP will not be needed in this form, as well as others tools that requires webserver.

Dmitry Maslennikov · Dec 16, 2022 go to post

Well, what will happen with Docker images, and in particular Community Edition?

Will it require an additional docker image with a pre-configured webserver?

WebGateway images, which may probably be a replacement for that case, are not available for the community without support.